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Re: An interesting cross over on Alabama CMSR's

Good Job with the cards George and yes that is how I also read them. When you said

"I believe these two individuals presented to be the same, John Black Senior. I have tabulated the cards in these two files below."

I am assuming you mean there were two separate soldiers J. W. Black and John Black both of Company H 17th Alabama Infantry? Or are you saying as I think I read it that you believe the two soldiers are the same soldier? Please clarify.

I talked to the ADAH this morning and they are going to review the records and will make a decision later on.

I'm not having any luck finding marriage records for Mary and John Black at present however I did pick up an interesting lead if it holds up. There was an old church called "Old Scotland Presbyterian Church" located in Tunnel Springs, Alabama in Monroe County. I saw an entry where the family of "Black" were old members and that Company H of the 17th Regiment, Alabama Infantry was formed at the church. Since the church is no longer in use I will have to go to the Presbyterian Church in Monroeville, Alabama and see if they have the other churches records. If they do we might be able to fill in some voids with this family.

And I also talked to ancestry today in Salt Lake City. I ask them why John Black was showing up in the 1860 census with family search and not with ancestry on the same census. Her answer seemed as long as Everett's speech at Gettysburg but she did tell me how to find it on ancestry. Going to ancestry hit the search box going left to right 3rd box on top of page. Click on it and then scroll down to "card catalog" and click on it. Then scroll down until you find the 1860 United States census and click on it. Then go to the browse collection box at right. Then enter Alabama as the state and Monroe as the County. Then hit tab that says "not stated" Then at the bottom of the page enter 49 page instead of the #1 page. It is on page 49 that you will find him on the 1860 United States census at ancestry. You will see John Black, age 44 born in North Carolina, birth year 1816 living with John Black (NMI) age 16, born in Alabama, birth year about 1844 and listed as a laborer. And the family was living in Monroe County, Alabama with the nearest Post Office as Burnt Corn. Absent of course is Mary and William J. Black who showed up on the 1850 census. Also Henry is listed in the household as born in 1852.

If you feel fold 3 will adjust the changes to his CMSR's, you have nothing to lose. All they can say is no. If they do change the records and by that we mean putting them in the proper soldier's CMSR, then you will have accomplished something very few people have been able to do.

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